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Old 06-07-2009, 08:51 PM
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Please help me understand in great detail what drives a man like Nero. Yes I have read countdown, star trek movie tie in, and seen the movie a few times. I just like a better understanding on what makes Nero well Nero.

A few questions to go along with my main question:

1. Why does he out right attack the Kelvin at first sight?

2. What was the mean of killing Capt.Robau?

3. Did Nero in some way, shape, or from also hold James T.Kirk accountable for what happaned in his timeline?
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Old 06-07-2009, 08:58 PM
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Nero is just a generic bad guy, they make him look all baddy with his face tatoos, and leather ninja boots, like a biker from Hell. I wouldn't say there is much psychological depth to the character-he was just all out for vengence.
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1. By doing so, he demonstrates the power of his ship to the Captain Robau and leaves no doubt that he could easily finish off the ship and crew if he wanted to. This essentially forces Robau to cooperate with Nero's instructions, if only to buy time.

2. There was probably no real meaning. Once Robau answered Nero's questions, Robau was no longer of any use to Nero and neither was the crew of the Kelvin. In all likelihood he would have destroyed Kelvin and all of the survivors that evacuated if the Narada hadn't been disabled in the collision.

3. I suppose he probably did hold Kirk accountable. Throughout TOS Kirk caused the Romulans a few headaches, but I think probably what really hurt the Romulans the most was Kirk saving the Khitomer conference. In doing so, it helps lay the ground work for the Federation Klingon alliance and tips the balance of power against the Romulans, forcing the Romulans to expend more of their resources against the Federation and Klingons.
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Indeed Akula2ssn vary useful info please people keep the facts coming.
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1. Why does he out right attack the Kelvin at first sight?

TO SHOW HE MEANS BUSINESS

2. What was the mean of killing Capt.Robau?

BECAUSE ROBAU COULD NOT HELP HIM FIND OLD SPOCK

3. Did Nero in some way, shape, or from also hold James T.Kirk accountable for what happaned in his timeline?

NERO'S RAMPAGE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH KIRK
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I think Omegaman's third point is probably more correct. While I still think that my third point does stand, but when Nero started this whole thing, his target was primarily Spock. Kirk was probably more of an afterthought once he realized that Kirk was also within his reach. He might not have even realized that Kirk was alive or born until he encountered Kirk all those years later.
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So Nero just beat the hell out of Kirk just for the hell of it? Seemed to me was ready to kill jim just like he did his father.

* Belay my last statment...LoL
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1. Why does he out right attack the Kelvin at first sight?
Because he needs to show that the Narada is far superior

2. What was the mean of killing Capt.Robau?
Nero killed him after he realizes that he is useless to him

3. Did Nero in some way, shape, or from also hold James T.Kirk accountable for what happaned in his timeline?
Yes because he hated Star Trek V
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1. Because it's Federation.
2. Because he's Federation.
3. Same reason
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Please help me understand in great detail what drives a man like Nero. Yes I have read countdown, star trek movie tie in, and seen the movie a few times. I just like a better understanding on what makes Nero well Nero.

A few questions to go along with my main question:

1. Why does he out right attack the Kelvin at first sight?

2. What was the mean of killing Capt.Robau?

3. Did Nero in some way, shape, or from also hold James T.Kirk accountable for what happaned in his timeline?
He's without a doubt the most inconsistent Bad Guy Trek has ever seen.
None of his action but the compulsion to destroy things makes any sense. It's not possible to relate Nero with any sort of character make up we've ever seen before.

He clearly pretends to have a rationale. He speaks rationally, he knows how to defend himself, to be proactive and preemptive but fails on so many aspects that a villian needs to be taken seriously. He resembled Dr. Evil only less funny.

a. Letting Spock and Pike live were actions that were not good follow ups to his vicious behavior to the murder of the Kelvin's Captain. Can't take him seriously on his endeavors if he looses that murder lust for people he has reason to kill but does not.

b. His objective to save Romulus is likely pretense.
He never takes one move to ensure that Romulus would survive a hundred and 29 years later.

There has been plenty of reasons on his character in his defense.
Did he really have all the time in the world? Twenty-five years is long time. Plenty to set things in motion 129 years is five times as long. Perhaps he felt he could afford the time.

If that's true then Nero was a procrastinator on the highest level. The most common trait of a sucessful Blue Collar worker is sense of time. We all need it but we don't all have it or appreciate it. These individuals tend to be drop outs and failures in buisness and life because they can't apprieciate a deadline.

Nero would seem to be the same thing.
I can't be convinced that it was ever his intention to save Romulus and after seeing the movie for the second time I found he said at the end that he would endure the destruction of Romulus a thousand times before he accepted they're aid.

That's not reasonable for a man who purposes to cause all this death and destruction BECAUSE of the destruction of Romulus. SO it would seem he didn't really care what happend to his family or Romulus. Nor did it matter to any of his crew who never voiced any disagreement. I can believe one person might be this insane but not a whole ship of people. They all had families they wanted to see again.
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