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Old 05-25-2009, 12:42 PM
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Unfortunately in American history, that sort of behavior was NOT at all uncommon in the 19th century US expansion. All the Indian wars, the Mexican war, and nearly a war with Great Britain over the Oregon territory occurred for exactly such reasons. Again it would be a major reason why Klingons (Like Kor: "You've hemmed us in! Strangled our trade! Cut off vital supplies! You've been asking for war!) would be antagonistic to the Federation at this time.
I always thought that the Federation is based on voluntary membership instead of expansionism. Perhaps the Federation grew faster in the border regions than the Klingon Empire and that's why they were so annoyed?
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Old 05-25-2009, 12:50 PM
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I always thought that the Federation is based on voluntary membership instead of expansionism. Perhaps the Federation grew faster in the border regions than the Klingon Empire and that's why they were so annoyed?
Voluntary expansion + Aggressive colonization=Trouble.
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Old 05-25-2009, 01:30 PM
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But colonies near Klingon space? That sounds like a fairly adventurous endeavour and you might spend more time on zapping Klingon raiders than building your colony or working on the fields.
Sure why not? Thats how you claim territory and plant the flag before the other guys can.

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It's in the dossier...
Those dossiers seem to have inconsistent facts.

In the movie the Enterprise was struggling to get to Warp 4. But in the dossier is says that it can reach Warp 8.
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Those dossiers seem to have inconsistent facts.

In the movie the Enterprise was struggling to get to Warp 4. But in the dossier is says that it can reach Warp 8.
Enterprise was damaged in the battle with the Narada at Vulcan.

Spock briefly speaks of Engineering crews repairing numerous radiation leaks in Engineering as one of the reasons he can't order Engineering to increase the Warp yield to catch up with the Narada.
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Enterprise was damaged in the battle with the Narada at Vulcan.

Spock briefly speaks of Engineering crews repairing numerous radiation leaks in Engineering as one of the reasons he can't order Engineering to increase the Warp yield to catch up with the Narada.
OOOOOOOOOOOHHH, Now I see.

Thanks. That always bugged me, but now that it's cleared up.

I was wondering cus I remember the NX-01 could reach Warp 7.
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Old 05-25-2009, 02:10 PM
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I thought it was only 5 or so on that show?
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Old 05-25-2009, 02:16 PM
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I think she was a generic use multi-purpose starship probably built in decent numbers and ready and capable for a variety of missions including exploration, transport, offenxe/defence and the like.

In other words - a normal ship.
That's the general description of a cruiser in Starfleet, IMO. The Miranda-class generally falls into that category.

The Kelvin could have been a medium cruiser, while the Enterprise might have been designated a heavy cruiser...
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I thought it was only 5 or so on that show?
It used to be, then the NX-01 got sucked into a wormhole and got stuck in the past, and then an alternate universe was created. Then the NX-01 in the alternate universe past went back through the wormhole and encountered the Prime NX-01 in the present(during the show) and gave the Prime NX-01 the technology to reach Warp 7.

It's a really confusing episode.
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