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Old 05-22-2009, 09:09 AM
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Hello, what about the shields. They're supposed to protect the ship, and I'd like to think that the shields and deflectors could repel masses up to a certain size. Remember from the opening sequences of Voyager where the ship is passing through the planetary rings. The spacial matter is slipped aside and the wake of it settles behind the ship. I'd think that the deflectors could repel matter at least 1/2 the mass of the ship or less, otherwise the mass would push the ship back, until the threshold was reach where the mass overcame the power of the deflectors.
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Old 05-22-2009, 09:15 AM
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Remember from the opening sequences of Voyager where the ship is passing through the planetary rings. The spacial matter is slipped aside and the wake of it settles behind the ship.
Yupp, fine example. Eventhough the dust would not have settled behind the ship. To settle a force would need to act upon the mass. I dont know what force could have settled it. Instead it would heve been deflected and proceeded on this deflected course.

However, the dust acted on the Voyagers deflector from almost all sides and constantly so, and Voyager would have countered the ways in wich the dust would have contsnatly altered its course. In the case of the debris hitting the Enterprise in the new movie it was one event. Realistically we would have seen an alteration of course of both objects, the debris and the ship, untill Sulu would have corrected the course again.
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Sooo, if Sulu is steering the ship hard ahead and doesn't let up, it's kind of like hitting the guard rails and still going over the cliff??
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Sooo, if Sulu is steering the ship hard ahead and doesn't let up, it's kind of like hitting the guard rails and still going over the cliff??
Imagine to go with a rowing boat on a river. A chopped off tree is aproaching you (do you call that a piece of lumber? wood?).
To not get hit by the lumber/wood/tree you use your paddel as a deflector, pushing the tree away from you. But as you do, you also push yourself away from the tree. Now you have to correct your altered course to return to your initial path again.

What we see in the movie is how the tree hits you, but neither the trees nor your course are altered by the interaction. And there can be only one explanation for that: An Anti-Newtonian Paradox Compensation Field.
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Old 05-22-2009, 09:34 AM
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This has been a major flaw in science fiction since science fiction began. The artists responsible for the visual effects don't understand physics, and worse don't read the descriptions of the ships or creatures that the writer envisioned.
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