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Old 01-14-2009, 06:49 AM
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Even without the alternate universe explanation, examples like the one above do NOT bother me one bit. Can kirk drive a car or not? Not something I consider "canon", just minor details that were written in order to add humor (or in the case of the new movie, action) to an episode. There are lots of these minor details that are really NOT worth scrutinizing.

Have to agree with that.
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Old 01-14-2009, 06:59 AM
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I don't think anyone has said it yet, but the official name of the flick is not Star Trek XI. It's just Star Trek.

It's not the next in line, it's the first.
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Old 01-14-2009, 07:08 AM
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the whole driving thing isn't even important. Why focus on it. How does it add to the character or the movie?
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Old 01-14-2009, 09:47 AM
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Perhaps watching the film may answer such questions. It's only a trailer - a collection of out of sequence shots edited together to attract interest.
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Riker supposedly took over the captains chair on the refit Enterprise D, but in Nemesis when he gets his captain's chair he is in command of the Titan. But oh, that's right, it was an alternate timeline...or could it really have been Riker's "twin" Thomas Riker from the transporter malfunction. there is always a way around canon and alternate timelines...blah blah, just watch the movie and take it for what it is. Like I said before in a previous thread, supposedly money is no longer used, but go watch ST IV and there is a scene where they are on Nimbus III and there is a commercial playing on the TV in the background talking about buying a home I believe and to get a Federation loan. You gotta pay back a loan, which is monetary...but no one picked up on that.
"All Good Things" showed a possible future that Picard visited. Again, FUTURE. There were also a few past sequences in AGT as well, but you focussed on Riker commanding the 3-nacelled Enterprise Dreadnaught in the possible future that Q sent Picard to. The future is not set in stone. The past is. Unless somebody goes back and messes with it. And that explanation doesn't even work here because Orci said the movie takes place in an alternate reality, not in the past of the Trek universe we know. And compared to the changes being made in this movie, the whole money thing is minor, just like littel Jimmy Kirk knowing how to drive. And actually, just about everybody picked up on that. Just check out any thread on this site where people complain about "nitpicking".
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Like I said before in a previous thread, supposedly money is no longer used, but go watch ST IV and there is a scene where they are on Nimbus III and there is a commercial playing on the TV in the background talking about buying a home I believe and to get a Federation loan. You gotta pay back a loan, which is monetary...but no one picked up on that.
To be fair, Nimbus III is an intergalactic establishment. Earth does not use money amongst itself. But that does not cover other planets. Quark for instance is clearly running a bar for financial gain on DS9. Humans, yes, do not use money among each other. But they would have to get some sort of loan for credits from the Federation when dealing with outside financial systems.

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"All Good Things" showed a possible future that Picard visited. Again, FUTURE. There were also a few past sequences in AGT as well, but you focussed on Riker commanding the 3-nacelled Enterprise Dreadnaught in the possible future that Q sent Picard to. The future is not set in stone. The past is. Unless somebody goes back and messes with it. And that explanation doesn't even work here because Orci said the movie takes place in an alternate reality, not in the past of the Trek universe we know. And compared to the changes being made in this movie, the whole money thing is minor, just like littel Jimmy Kirk knowing how to drive. And actually, just about everybody picked up on that. Just check out any thread on this site where people complain about "nitpicking".
On the contrary. The money thing would be major. At least, a lot bigger change than any of the changes made. The idea that money is not used on Earth is a big effect that supports the idea that humans work to better themselves, no longer for financial gain. This is a major idea about the driving motivation of the Federation.

Fortunately though, as I've pointed out above, it's more complicated than that when dealing with other races that do use money.
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Old 01-15-2009, 09:59 AM
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I can't believe how much mileage folks are getting out of this car nonsense. I wish I could get my real car to go so far!
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Old 01-15-2009, 10:05 AM
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Do I get a free half tank of gas to start me out? If so, sign me up!
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Old 01-15-2009, 10:15 AM
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You first gotta prove that you are really a nitpicker, they don't take free-riders

But seriously, I guess the question any writer asks himself or herself, "is this feature essential for the character or not?" has only one answer. The ability to drive whatever vehicle might only be relevant for Sulu.

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