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Old 11-29-2008, 12:08 AM
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Original assault on the Death Star, with all its faux WWII dam-busting attitude, is still more enthralling than any space battle Trek has put onscreen.

That said, Star Trek is about Kirk/Spock/McCoy more than anything else. Lifelong friendship, the human spirit, teamwork, sacrifice...real values.

They both have their appeal.
Oh no. That death star assualt was stupid by default and boring. No musical accompliment at all and completely unrealistic. But you're right better than ...most things in Trek.


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I walked out Star Wars back in '76.

Sucked.
I wouldn't say that.
It was simple...the plot of the movie was "Save the Girl;Save the Planet."

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Why can't you like both?

The "war" is ridiculous.
You can "love" both but if you love either you take a shot to your intelligence.
It's just entertainment. I try not to invest that much emotion into either franchise.
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Original assault on the Death Star, with all its faux WWII dam-busting attitude, is still more enthralling than any space battle Trek has put onscreen.

That said, Star Trek is about Kirk/Spock/McCoy more than anything else. Lifelong friendship, the human spirit, teamwork, sacrifice...real values.

They both have their appeal.
Oh no. That death star assualt was stupid by default and boring. No musical accompliment at all and completely unrealistic. But you're right better than ...most things in Trek.


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I walked out Star Wars back in '76.

Sucked.
I wouldn't say that.
It was simple...the plot of the movie was "Save the Girl;Save the Planet."

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Why can't you like both?

The "war" is ridiculous.
You can "love" both but if you love either you take a shot to your intelligence.
It's just entertainment. I try not to invest that much emotion into either franchise.
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Old 11-29-2008, 12:38 AM
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"No musical accompaniment" ?!?!
Sorry, John Williams fan over here having a small-ish brain meltdown.
I would strongly suggest you check out the rather epic nine-minute cue for "The Battle of Yavin". It just might change your mind.

By the way, I think your "post reply" button is stuck.

And what does "stupid by default" mean?
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Old 11-29-2008, 12:47 AM
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There was no soundtrack for the trench run. NONE
It was stupid because idea of an unshielded...(sorry ray shielded) un-particle shielded exhaust port on a battlestation designed to be an all purpose replacement for an entire Star Fleet is stupid.

What is also stupid:
Shields that do not stop fighter penetration.

What is also Stupid:
Not scrabbling every wave of fighters to eliminate a hand full of fighters.
Star Wars is the are of taking the intelligence of the audience for granted.

Now the original star wars was less stupid than the new star wars which takes, taking your intelligence for granted to GRAND NEW LEVELS.
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Old 11-29-2008, 12:52 AM
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Whew! Saquist? Were we trapped in a temporal causality loop for a bit?
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Old 11-29-2008, 12:57 AM
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"Round and Round
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Where it stops
only Data knows..."
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Old 11-29-2008, 01:06 AM
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"Round and Round
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Where it stops
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But begging your pardon, my CD collection and youtube will have to politely disagree with you about the no music thing. Trust me, there's music, it's awesome, and if you missed out on it for whatever reason, I am truly, truly sorry.
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Old 11-29-2008, 01:24 AM
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It's only there in select areas.....A great portion of the trench battle is almost...soundless. Only sound effects and bits of dialogue. it's because they didn't have enough music so they spread it arround in certain areas.
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Old 11-29-2008, 02:25 AM
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There was no soundtrack for the trench run. NONE
It was stupid because idea of an unshielded...(sorry ray shielded) un-particle shielded exhaust port on a battlestation designed to be an all purpose replacement for an entire Star Fleet is stupid.

What is also stupid:
Shields that do not stop fighter penetration.

What is also Stupid:
Not scrabbling every wave of fighters to eliminate a hand full of fighters.
Star Wars is the are of taking the intelligence of the audience for granted.

Now the original star wars was less stupid than the new star wars which takes, taking your intelligence for granted to GRAND NEW LEVELS.
Yeah, because that was what Lucas was worried about when he wrote it. And there is indeed plenty of music placed through that trench sequence.
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Old 11-29-2008, 03:01 AM
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I really don't think so.
Compared today standards plenty means completely scored...as in more than enough.

Only during the end when Luke is making his run does the score really pipe up again. I've seen and heared it enough times to playback mentally. While the cinematography was bouncing between the fighter engagement and Rebel command center it was completely silent. That silence continues into losing several fighters untill the Wing Commander is lost and the music pipes up.
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