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Old 11-22-2008, 06:05 AM
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Old 11-22-2008, 06:20 AM
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*looks around at the real world* Umm... probably not. There are always going to be those who will not let go of their prejudices and they, in turn, infect others.
Star Trek has never been about the "real world". It has always been about an idealistic view of our future. Afterall, the whole point of Star Trek is that different people can put aside their differences and work together for the greater good. It has always been opptimistic that our future will be better than our past.
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I forgot to meantion that i hope to see more of the UFP diversity in this new movie, but NOT at the expense of telling a good story. Showing more aliens just for the sake of showing more aliens would be a mistake, in my opinion. That is why I hope ST:Titan is NEVER made into a series. The crew is TOO diverse. The special effects needed just to show the crew would limit good story telling ability.
One word: BULL****!

Star Trek: Deep Space Nine had a ton of characters who were alien, and had make up galore. You loved that series and watched it, and the aliens in it didn't detract from the storytelling; in fact, it enhanched it. So please don't give me that nonsense that too many aliens would spoil the show.

One solution would be to do a prime-time CGI cartoon like Star Wars: The Clone Wars, and have Jonathan Frakes, Marina Sirtis do the voices of Riker & Troi. The CGI would be excellent in conveying the multitude of alien races that make up the Titan's crew, and also open up the storytelling possiblites of the show. And just like Clone Wars, a big screen movie would be used to premiere the show and characters. This assumes, of course, that Jonathan Frakes and Marina Sirtis would want to do an animated series, or that CBS Studios/CBS Paramount Television would want to do an animated show based on a book series, let alone do a animated show (they haven't done one at all, unless it's through Nickelodeon.) In fact, Nickleodeon would be the best place to show this series; if not Sci-Fi can do that.

So yes, a Star Trek movie/TV show should have more aliens in it, and Paramount/CBS Studios should be upping the budget in live action movies/TV shows to feature said aliens, or consider animation if that is not feasible financially. It is not impossible; all it takes is a little hard work and smarts.

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Old 11-22-2008, 09:29 AM
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I would hope that they would not use such cartoonic CGI as seen on the Clone Wars thing!
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Old 11-22-2008, 09:44 AM
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They can use the realistic style seen in Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within. In fact, they'd better use it, too, just to be different.
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Old 11-22-2008, 01:45 PM
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Spirits Within suffered from trying to make the characters look too realistic, and ended up with a creepy zombie-like effect. But in Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children, they took a step back from the realism a little, and the overall effect was - conversely - far more realistic and believable. They also paid more attention to details like facial expression, body movement and skin, which helped too. It'll be good to see the Blu-Ray edition of Advent Children when it comes out - with revamped visuals and a half-hour of extra content, it should be fantastic...

Anyway, back to Trek: mixing photo-realistic animation and live action is probably, for now, too costly and time-consuming for use in episodic TV. But for film, it's a realistic option. After all, Gollum from The Lord of the Rings is almost entirely a digital creation, and a virtually seamless piece of work.
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One word: BULL****!

Star Trek: Deep Space Nine had a ton of characters who were alien, and had make up galore. You loved that series and watched it, and the aliens in it didn't detract from the storytelling; in fact, it enhanched it. So please don't give me that nonsense that too many aliens would spoil the show.

One solution would be to do a prime-time CGI cartoon a'la Star Wars: The Clone Wars, and have Jonathan Frakes, Marina Sirtis do the voices of Riker & Troi. The CGI would be excellent in conveying the multitude of alien races that make up the Titan's crew, and also open uo the storytelling possiblites of the show. And just like Clone Wars, a big screen movie would be used to premiere the show and characters. This assumes, of course, that Jonathan Frakes and Marina Sirtis would want to do an animated series, or that CBS Studios/CBS Paramount Television would want to do an animated show based on a book series, let alone do a animated show (they haven't done one at all, unless it's through Nickelodeon.) In fact, Nickleodeon would be the best place to show this series; if not Sci-Fi can do that.

So yes, a Star Trek movie/TV show should have more aliens in it, and Paramount/CBS Studios should be upping the budget in live action movies/TV shows to feature said aliens, or consider animation if that is not feasible financially. It is not impossible; all it takes is a little hard work and smarts.
Good point about DS9. That series had aliens galore in it. If a TV series with limited monetary resources can pull off that many aliens, a blockbuster in the making like Star Trek should have no trouble featuring a Federation and Starfleet that has plenty of Vulcans, Andorians, Tellarites, and whatever other species are to be included.
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Could the Horta and humans operate the same controls on a ship? If the alien species are too alien from each other, they couldn't possibly serve on the same ship
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Good point about DS9. That series had aliens galore in it. If a TV series with limited monetary resources can pull off that many aliens, a blockbuster in the making like Star Trek should have no trouble featuring a Federation and Starfleet that has plenty of Vulcans, Andorians, Tellarites, and whatever other species are to be included.
Ugh, no more Andorians.

They look so dumb. If they put those guys in a mainstream Trek feature people would laugh them off the screen 4 realz.
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Old 11-23-2008, 05:51 AM
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Ugh, no more Andorians.

They look so dumb. If they put those guys in a mainstream Trek feature people would laugh them off the screen 4 realz.
Not likely. Andorians are a popular species, plus they are one of the four founding members of the Federation. Their appearance is almost a given.
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