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Old 01-09-2009, 06:50 PM
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As a man of 49 years of age, I guess you could tell that I was raised on Star Trek the original series. I grew to love the characters and the actors who played those parts. This is my question to the Older fans of ST-TOS. Are you really ready to see the characters that we grew up on and loved for all those many years, being played by someone else? I have really anticipated this movie for a very long time now. But as the Movie comes closer to being released, I now have an odd feeling that I just might Not want to see it. Is it normal to feel this way? In my minds eye, I just can't see anyone else play these legends. And yet, I am so very much a fan of Star Trek, that I don't want to miss it either. Does any one else have this feeling? Your thoughts are welcomed.
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Old 01-09-2009, 07:22 PM
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"To the older fans of Star Trek"
I qualify on either interpretation.

Q: Are you really ready to see the characters that we grew up on and loved for all those many years, being played by someone else?
A: Yes. I suspect you are confusing symbolic characters with iconic people.

ICON: A conventional religious image. An object of uncritical devotion.
Related - SYMBOL: something that stands for or suggests something else by reason of relationship, association, convention, or resemblance.

Q: Is it normal to feel this way?
A: Ask a shrink, but don't call him that or he'll charge more. They hate it.

Q: Does any one else have this feeling?
A: I can only speak for myself and the answer is no. Bring on the changes.

*Your thoughts are welcomed*
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I crush spirits and see them driven back to basements; all to hear the lamentation of fanboys and THE WOMEN!
HA! JSnyder, what is good in life?! Ah, you've answered that already.
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Old 01-09-2009, 07:29 PM
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Remembering the original Star Trek fondly, I can safely say I am ready to see how these new actors tackle iconic roles.
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As a man of 49 years of age, I guess you could tell that I was raised on Star Trek the original series. I grew to love the characters and the actors who played those parts.
I don't get this "older fans" business. I'm 30. Yes, I missed the weekly airing of the original series episodes. But for what it's worth, I too was raised on Star Trek. I used to watch the episodes with my dad. The Star Trek movies introduced me to scifi (well, that and Alien and yes of course Star Wars). I saw all the movies starting with Search for Spock in the theater.

I got funny looks at school when I would talk about this cool movie I saw in the theater... which was "Voyage Home". Most of the guys at school, mostly into what the latest buzz on their favorite athlete was, thought of Star Trek as something nerds were into.

For all intents and purposes, I too grew up on Trek. I'm a Trekkie. I don't dress up, well, not yet anyway (more of a procrastinator in that department: I should get that uniform... tomorrow).

That being said, I don't really like this elitist group that's formed on this thread of the "Old Fans" vs. the "Youngsters". Apparently that's the argument lately, that this movie will be okay if you're one of the Yungins, but Ye Good Ol' Boys know what's what.

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This is my question to the Older fans of ST-TOS. Are you really ready to see the characters that we grew up on and loved for all those many years, being played by someone else? I have really anticipated this movie for a very long time now. But as the Movie comes closer to being released, I now have an odd feeling that I just might Not want to see it. Is it normal to feel this way? In my minds eye, I just can't see anyone else play these legends. And yet, I am so very much a fan of Star Trek, that I don't want to miss it either. Does any one else have this feeling? Your thoughts are welcomed.
That's the genius of it. In Search for Spock, young Spock was played by different actors there too. Why is this different? These are younger versions of the characters. The way I see it, they don't want to start with actors that would portray the characters at the same age as the ones you grew up with. They want the characters to be younger, and therefore portrayed by younger actors. Whether or not we accept them in these parts - when the movie comes out - will determine whether or not we'll accept them as playing characters getting older to the point when the TOS took place in future sequel films.
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I don't get this "older fans" business.
Who you callin' old !?!
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I think you'll find many people's view on this sorta thing varies... but I tend to side with the majority of opinion from fans 50ish and higher... even though I'm only 33 myself. So it's not about your age, but how you yourself see Trek... which to me is something special and the acters that played the original characters are part of that 'special' thing... sure it's nice to 're-imagine' Trek... unless this idea flops... who's to say yet... but it will never be as special as the first one to me even if this one 'takes flight'.

Like Scotty said, "Ah, it's like the first time you fall in love. You never love a woman quite like that again." And yes I'm old enough to know that, is very, very, true.

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I'm almost 49, and I have no problem what-so-ever seeing the characters re-cast. It is a movie, and I am there to be entertained, and I can forget about the people who came before and just enjoy (or not) the movie. How about all the die-hard James Bond fans. They don;t seem to have a problem with James getting a new face every few films. I felt the same about the new Battlestar Galactica. As a matter of fact, it is so much better than the original, that when I see an original episode, it makes me cringe. Let's hope the new movie does the same, and I hope these people in the movie will continue in those roles for many films to come (and new series, PLEASE!)
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I'm almost 49, and I have no problem what-so-ever seeing the characters re-cast. It is a movie, and I am there to be entertained, and I can forget about the people who came before and just enjoy (or not) the movie. How about all the die-hard James Bond fans. They don;t seem to have a problem with James getting a new face every few films. I felt the same about the new Battlestar Galactica. As a matter of fact, it is so much better than the original, that when I see an original episode, it makes me cringe. Let's hope the new movie does the same, and I hope these people in the movie will continue in those roles for many films to come (and new series, PLEASE!)
There is all kinds of examples of this. How many different incarnations of Superman have there been? Kyrk Allen, George Reeves, Christopher Reeve, Dean Cain, and Brandon Routhe? Superman is still a beloved character that has been around since the 1930's. Yes I know some griped when Routhe replaced the late Chris Reeve...yet they came to accept him none the less. I suspect the case will be the some here too with the new cast of Star Trek. Fans old and new of each genre still come together at one point or another...bring the change.
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I'm almost 49, and I have no problem what-so-ever seeing the characters re-cast. It is a movie, and I am there to be entertained, and I can forget about the people who came before and just enjoy (or not) the movie. How about all the die-hard James Bond fans. They don;t seem to have a problem with James getting a new face every few films. I felt the same about the new Battlestar Galactica. As a matter of fact, it is so much better than the original, that when I see an original episode, it makes me cringe. Let's hope the new movie does the same, and I hope these people in the movie will continue in those roles for many films to come (and new series, PLEASE!)
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The Bond comparison.

James Bond has never been a tv character, so there is not as much association with actor-to-character as there is with Star Trek, though I know people will argue who's the Best Bond to no end.

Bond, like Superman, Batman, Spider-Man, is mostly known as a movie character these days (yes, I know both Supes and Bats had tv shows)...the public has become used to and expect each actor who plays the part to eventually change. Everyone knew Christopher Reeve was likely to only play the Man of Steel one more time, in fact, Gerard Christopher, who played the part in the "Superboy" series was rumored to have been being groomed to take Reeves' place had the movies continued back then. Most know that you're not likely on the average to get more than two movies out of a Batman. And after the next Spider-man movie, will Tobey Maguire be likely to return?

People are used to change in those characters. Not so with Star Trek.

Yes, other actors have played young Spock, or Sarek, or Amanda before...how long were those scenes? Do you remember those people as those parts?

Christopher Pike was recast out of necessity...as was Saavik. In fact, in STVI:TUC, the traitor was supposed to be Saavik, but Kirstie Alley would not reprise the role and Roddenberry objected to saavik being a traitor, so the part became Valeris. Zefram Cochrane was recast for unknown reasons, as Glenn Corbett was still alive.

Otherwise, in all Trek, it's been same actor/same part. How many times did Grace Lee Whitney come back as Rand? Even John Winston was brought back for a quick scene as Commander Kyle.

That's what makes it different.

And it's not likely any of the film actors would be in a new series with the separation of Paramount and CBS.
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