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Old 04-01-2008, 08:23 AM
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I would have protested Kirk wanting to go down to fix the deflector relays. I would have said, "No Captain, I understand you want me to be on the bridge. But as Captain, I should have known better than to leave drydock unprepared for situations such as these. I wouldn't want your death on my consionce...Not that you're going to die, but as I've heard Mr. Spock say time, and time again, 'There are always possibilities.' "

*I mean, if you watch the film again, you can see how Harriman is almost hoping for Kirk to volunteer to go. There isn't one glance of thought or hesitivity after Kirk says he could take care of it.* But that's just me. Any other suggestions or thoughts on this?
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Old 04-01-2008, 08:30 AM
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I would have protested Kirk wanting to go down to fix the deflector relays. I would have said, "No Captain, I understand you want me to be on the bridge. But as Captain, I should have known better than to leave drydock unprepared for situations such as these. I wouldn't want your death on my conciouns...Not that you're going to die, but as I've heard Mr. Spock say time, and time again, 'There are always possibilities.' "

*I mean, if you watch the film again, you can see how Harriman is almost hoping for Kirk to volunteer to go. There isn't one glance of thought or hesitivity after Kirk says he could take care of it.* But that's just me. Any other suggestions or thoughts on this?
Well, the ship not being fully functional was Starfleet's decision, not Harriman's. Starfleet wanted the press oppertunity and a PR goldmine of having Kirk on the E-B. This was just a short jaunt around the solar system, not actaul duty.

I allways sensed that Harriman was second guessing only because Kirk, hero of the fleet was there.

Kirk and Harriman realized it was better for Harriman to stay on the bridge of his ship, at that time, Kirk was the most expendable crew member on board.
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Well, actually, if the time would have allowed it, I would have said:

Go down to the deflector controll room? Why not. All the high skilled, well trained and perfectly specialized deflector engeneers could perhaps need a hand, here.. or there.
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Well, actually, if the time would have allowed it, I would have said:

Go down to the deflector controll room? Why not. All the high skilled, well trained and perfectly specialized deflector engeneers could perhaps need a hand, here.. or there.
Yeah...that's sort of the ticket..."Hey, why not send you down since this ship is completely new to you....."
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Yeah...that's sort of the ticket..."Hey, why not send you down since this ship is completely new to you....."
Exactly, he's been retired for years, and going on a Brand New Ship, 5 times larger than the ship he's served on for years, and the New ship comes in Danger and he gets sent down to fix the problem..... how is he suppost to find the control room anyway?
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Exactly, he's been retired for years, and going on a Brand New Ship, 5 times larger than the ship he's served on for years, and the New ship comes in Danger and he gets sent down to fix the problem..... how is he suppost to find the control room anyway?
Read my previous post for the answers.
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Harriman was less prepared than the Enterprise B. How did this guy get his own command?
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Yeah, but Zardoz...I mean what about the whole Living Legend thing?
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Yeah, but Zardoz...I mean what about the whole Living Legend thing?
Ok, look at it from a Starfleet/military stance. Kirk was the most expendable. Scotty was helping keep the ship in one peice. Chekov was helping with the refugees. the civilians couldn't do it, even if they could, Starfleet protcol would not allow a civilian to he harmed.

All the E-B's limited crew was working to keep the ship going.

So Kirk was the most expendable person.

Jim Kirk never saw himself as a "living legend" he was just a Capatin.
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Ok, look at it from a Starfleet/military stance. Kirk was the most expendable. Scotty was helping keep the ship in one peice. Chekov was helping with the refugees. the civilians couldn't do it, even if they could, Starfleet protcol would not allow a civilian to he harmed.

All the E-B's limited crew was working to keep the ship going.

So Kirk was the most expendable person.

Jim Kirk never saw himself as a "living legend" he was just a Capatin.
Well, let's look at that again.

First. Kirk, though not in command of the vessel, is the highest ranking person on board the ship.
Second. Harriman, having likely overseen part of the construction of the ship, probably would have known the ship systems better (I thought it was a bit preposterous that Kirk would know where and how to do what needed to be done on ship he had likely never even stepped foot on until that day).
Third. Kirk wasn't a crewmember, he was essentially an honored guest, a digniatary there for a ceremony.

Harriman should have gone. At worst, Scotty should have gone. Kirk having been a starship commander for more than 30 years at that point, probably wouldn't have known enough to do what needed to be done.
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