[jla1987]

http://trekmovie.com/2011/06/29/one-...s-it/#comments

Look at the comments on this article. Seems to me, I'm not the only one who's concerned that delaying the next movie will create a Nemesis situation again. The impatience of the fan base is also showing itself now.

In short, they need to get this damn thing going or interest in the franchise will decline (again). At this point, I'd be happy if Abrams does what he did with the upcoming Mission Impossible...let someone else direct and he produces.

[NCC-73515]

I vote for Frakes.

[Saquist]

Originally Posted by NCC-73515

I vote for Frakes.

I want the movie to suceed at least so....not Frakes. All his movies have been flopps. May not be his fault as director but unfortunant.

On the other hand...I like Sub Rosa,Cause and Effect, Drumhead was EXCELLENT but the small screen is a different can of worms.

[kevin]

Originally Posted by Saquist

I want the movie to suceed at least so....not Frakes. All his movies have been flopps. May not be his fault as director but unfortunant.

On the other hand...I like Sub Rosa,Cause and Effect, Drumhead was EXCELLENT but the small screen is a different can of worms.

That's not strictly true, neither First Contact nor even (technically) Insurrection were box-office flops. Certainly not the former, which is still his most successful film.

But once he tried to move into other features..........yep, they didn't work out financially. Although I've never seen Clockstoppers or Thunderbirds so I don't know if the box-office reflects how good the films are.

His TV directing was pretty good though.

[Saquist]

Originally Posted by kevin

That's not strictly true, neither First Contact nor even (technically) Insurrection were box-office flops. Certainly not the former, which is still his most successful film.

But once he tried to move into other features..........yep, they didn't work out financially. Although I've never seen Clockstoppers or Thunderbirds so I don't know if the box-office reflects how good the films are.

His TV directing was pretty good though.

First Contact made 92 million
That's a marginal success yes.
Insurrection was 70 million 28th on the top 50


http://boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?yr=1998&p=.htm

Frankly when I say flop I guess I mean "no where near the top ten"..or "top 20". First Contact was a better success it's number 17 on it's years list. But honestly I was meaning flop as in...poor stories because those movies really were on the wrong end of the quality marker for me.

[kevin]

Originally Posted by Saquist

First Contact made 92 million
That's a marginal success yes.
Insurrection was 70 million 28th on the top 50


http://boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?yr=1998&p=.htm

Frankly when I say flop I guess I mean "no where near the top ten"..or "top 20". First Contact was a better success it's number 17 on it's years list. But honestly I was meaning flop as in...poor stories because those movies really were on the wrong end of the quality marker for me.

Ah,

Taking aside the story, when I'm using the word 'flop' I tend to look at what a film earned at the box-office versus what it cost to produce, etc. Though critical/viewer appreciation would also be a factor.

I don't entirely think in terms of critics's lists or where it lands for the year always. And I usually consider story separately.

[omegaman]

"They will not allow quality to be compromised in order to just meet that date."

And I agree… take as long as you need… but get it right!

[Captain Tom Coughlin]

Originally Posted by omegaman

"They will not allow quality to be compromised in order to just meet that date."

And I agree… take as long as you need… but get it right!

[I-Am-Zim]

Originally Posted by omegaman

"They will not allow quality to be compromised in order to just meet that date."

And I agree… take as long as you need… but get it right!

Yep. I just hope that it "lives up to" the original...

[omegaman]

Originally Posted by I-Am-Zim

Yep. I just hope that it "lives up to" the original...

I hope it surpasses the original