Originally Posted by horatio
I think it makes a difference whether you just throw stuff in for the sake of it or whether you combine it to create something new. It is not really fanwank or continuity obsession if we deal with the latter.
That's why I always criticize the previous two attempts to repeat TWOK, it was a blunt attempt to copy patterns that worked instead of an inspiration or a usage of ingredients from TWOK that were used to cook something new.
Back to the twelfth movie, I am actually pretty sure that unlike in STXI the familiar guys, here Khan and the Klingons, will have something to do with each other. Of course in-universe-wise the movie will have nothing to do with the previous stories that involved Klingons and Augments but it will be compared with it just like it will be compared with TWOK.
Probably. What's certain is this movie will follow JJ's previous style with little time for pause for thought.