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Old 11-27-2010, 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Botany Bay View Post
No, you have to take a pick now! If you dont choose or if you choose wrong, you will be reborn as a worm.

Quite frankly, I had many conversations whith someone, who believed in Karma. I never quite understood the relevance of the concept. If I am reborn as a worm, then I am NOT reborn at all, because I am NOT a worm. Same goes for the naive version of the idea of heaven, by the way. I am no angel, ergo, whatever ends up in heaven is not me.

But then, the idea of Karma also entails, that your actions will inevietably have repurcussions for you yourself within your lifetime. Like, you steal from someone and so, years later, someone else will steal from you.

There obviously is some truth to that, but whoever decides on the Karma seems to suck at math. Otherwise, how could evil tyrants like Stalin end up dying peacefully in their bed?
Originally Posted by kevin View Post
Because life has no benevolent logic behind it, no true rhyme or reason and good things happen to bad people, while good people have nothing but bad happen in their life.

It sucks. But it's all there is.
The usual religious reaction to evil people not being punished in this world is the idea that they will get punished in hell (Abrahamic religions) or the next life (Hinduism). Or let's take the reaction to 9/11 by folks like Pat Robertson that it was a punishment for our sinful life.
In both instances people try to restore order to the universe, even the most wicked crimes serve either a purpose (Godly warning) or will be punished in the afterlife respectively in the next life.

We should rather try to get out of this Pagan universe where things make sense and stick with Job. Stalin, 9/11 or whatever other horror and evil on this world don't serve any purpose. Or, to take the Christian equivalent of Job, God died on the cross and only the Holy Spirit is left, i.e. we are alone.
Isn't it wonderful that you can find this strange dialectic form of implicit atheism in Judaism and Christianity?
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