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Originally Posted by martok2112
 Ok,.....now, if you can remember, where exactly was it in those stories where the movies started going south for you?
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Let's see, mine was BATMAN BEGINS. I can't pinpoint an exact scene, the whole thing just felt all wrong. The music, the mood, the acting, the dialogue, it was all messed up. To be blunt, I had loved all three of the previous Batman films prior to Batman and Robin, and I thought that they didn't need a reboot, they just needed to make a better new film in the same franchise.
I guess it is that for all the preaching in the film about "Batman is a symbol", BATMAN BEGINS did everything to contradict that very statement. In contrast, I found that the first three Batman films did a far better job of depicting Batman as a legend and an iconic figure, someone who was "more than just a man". BATMAN BEGINS, Batman was too human. He was no longer an icon, or a symbol. It is the symbol that attracted me to the franchise, and I lost that sense that this was a legendary figure, not just a man.