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Old 01-12-2010, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by horatio View Post
These are valid points and I have no problem when someone believes that religious people are delusional. I have a lot of issues when someone claims to know that they are, that's scientific arrogance.
I am sure that Mr.Dawkins is a great scientist and that he even writes some interesting stuff in this book, but just like I have no interest in wasting my time with what creationists write, I will not waste my time with what the other extremists write.
You're going in circles. Dawkins isn't claiming people who believe in God are delusional he is stating for the sake of debate that a belief in God is a delusion and here is why. Like I said before in a debate you need to take a stance. If Dawkins says a belief in God maybe a delusion, I can say maybe it isn't and that's the end of the debate. If you read past the preface of the book and get in to the "here is why" you may find that Dawkins makes some reasonable arguments. Dawkins reasoning comes from his knowledge of science as well as other things. Dawkins doesn't end the book with the conclusion that he is 100% percent certain a belief in God is a delusion therefore God is a delusion as you and janeway72 assume he does, it's up to the reader to come to their own conclusion. I wouldn't put Dawkins on one end of a spectrum that has creationists on the other side because creationists try to alter science to suit their arguments but I'm pretty sure Dawkins's science is accurate. I'm curious how you came to your conclusion that God most likely doesn't exists? You said:

Originally Posted by horatio View Post
I don't believe in God, I have read more scientific than religious stuff.
If that's the only reason then I say you aren't giving religion a fare chance and maybe you should read some more religious stuff to balance it out with the science stuff you have read or did you use scientific reasoning and your knowledge of the world around you to come to that conclusion just like someone could conclude Santa Claus most likely doesn't exist?
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