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Saquist 03-09-2008 08:33 PM

Best Overall Bad GUY
 
So who is the All time Bad Guy of stage and Screen?
I have my favorites...Smith and Vader...
There so neck and neck but since one wasn't a daddy I'll have push Agent Smith ahead.

kukalakana 03-09-2008 08:36 PM

Kaiser Sose springs to mind.

Pretty sure someone else will spring to mind sooner or later.

sir num nums 03-09-2008 09:56 PM

Of the choices, I would have to say Darth Vader. He was a complex person that ultimately turned bad because he felt he should have had more power and was so desperate to save his wife from death. Those obsession turned him in to a bad guy.

Admiral Archer 03-10-2008 12:14 AM

My choice was Darth Sideous, a.k.a. "THE EMPEROR"

TBH, I never really thought that Darth Vader was a true villain. I mean, even before Episode III, me and my dad always thought that Vader was a good guy who just got mixed up with the wrong crowd, didn't even really consider himself to be evil; like in Episode III, he honestly thought he was doing the right thing. Darth Sideous KNEW that what he was doing was wrong, and did it anyway. To me, the raw evil passion that Sideous had puts him miles ahead of the other villains, and it is what makes him my choice. Agent Smith was a machine, and I think that, in the first Matrix, he explained himself and his beliefs very well, and I actually found his "humans are a disease" speech to be very logical, it made sense. Khan was a great villain, but what made him likable was not his pure evil mindset (which he did not have) but rather his rage, his thirst for vengeance, and his intellectual manner. Khan was like Moriarty, Darth Vader was like Marcus Junius Brutus, Agent Smith was like HAL, but Darth Sideous was like Satan. NOW you probably understand my decision.

Zardoz 03-10-2008 08:05 AM

I vote for Paramount and 20th Century Fox, both let their Franchies (Trek and Wars) to get lax...

arutha 03-10-2008 09:10 AM

I voted Magneto (the only film with Picard in it hehe)

but I really wanted to vote for Alfrd Beste from Babylon 5, or am I the only one who watched this?

the_tortel! 03-10-2008 09:37 AM


Yes..!

Ready Room 03-10-2008 10:33 AM

Agent Smith can be anyone...

Including me, Mister Anderson...

HokieinSC 03-10-2008 11:26 AM

Sidious. His dark manipulation of the system brought down a centuries old galactic order.

Saquist 03-10-2008 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ready Room (Post 23490)
Agent Smith can be anyone...

Including me, Mister Anderson...


I'm with you. Smith was just...incredible...he shot first and asked questions later. Look how he did NEO...he never ever EVERY hesitated to kill Neo or any of them. That makes a good bad guy.


Quote:

Originally Posted by arutha (Post 23447)
I voted Magneto (the only film with Picard in it hehe)

but I really wanted to vote for Alfrd Beste from Babylon 5, or am I the only one who watched this?

Magneto is one of my highones. He'll dispose of anyone in his way and he's one of the most poweful bad guys ever devised.

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Originally Posted by Admiral Archer (Post 23298)
My choice was Darth Sideous, a.k.a. "THE EMPEROR"

TBH, I never really thought that Darth Vader was a true villain. I mean, even before Episode III, me and my dad always thought that Vader was a good guy who just got mixed up with the wrong crowd, didn't even really consider himself to be evil; like in Episode III, he honestly thought he was doing the right thing. Darth Sideous KNEW that what he was doing was wrong, and did it anyway. To me, the raw evil passion that Sideous had puts him miles ahead of the other villains, and it is what makes him my choice. Agent Smith was a machine, and I think that, in the first Matrix, he explained himself and his beliefs very well, and I actually found his "humans are a disease" speech to be very logical, it made sense. Khan was a great villain, but what made him likable was not his pure evil mindset (which he did not have) but rather his rage, his thirst for vengeance, and his intellectual manner. Khan was like Moriarty, Darth Vader was like Marcus Junius Brutus, Agent Smith was like HAL, but Darth Sideous was like Satan. NOW you probably understand my decision.


The Emperor...

He was good. I loved how he manipulated and darkened a room...
However he didn't have common sense to see his end coming and act on it. It was kinda predicatable... he walked into it.


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