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MigueldaRican 11-17-2012 03:31 AM

FEMA Corps
 
Tell me this isn't true. A friend posted this on facebook.

http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.co...d-youth/23898/

Seems fishy. Why is there no followup on this? The article is a couple months old.

Captain Tom Coughlin 11-17-2012 05:28 AM

The FEMA Corps is real, it is a government program that helps train young people who are interested in a career in emergency management. All the rest of that is the ravings of paranoid lunatics who don't understand how government functions.

MigueldaRican 11-17-2012 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Tom Coughlin (Post 327327)
The FEMA Corps is real, it is a government program that helps train young people who are interested in a career in emergency management. All the rest of that is the ravings of paranoid lunatics who don't understand how government functions.

But are they wrong about the beefy military aspect of it? Or are they just zeroing in on certain things to make it sound like the new nazi youth?

My friend got it from a facebook group called "Christians Against Obama's Reelection". Most of what they post is... well I don't want to offend anyone, so I'll just say I disagree with most of it and a lot (like this story) sounds like raving conspiracy theories.

kevin 11-17-2012 06:52 AM

I think the fact it's a Facebook group...........and their name........are fairly NEON signs of some of the issues driving them.

But come the revolution, who knows.

MigueldaRican 11-17-2012 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by kevin (Post 327340)
I think the fact it's a Facebook group...........and their name........are fairly NEON signs of some of the issues driving them.

But come the revolution, who knows.

My feelings more or less really. Out of some fascination I glanced through their page... wow.

Captain Tom Coughlin 11-17-2012 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MigueldaRican (Post 327339)
But are they wrong about the beefy military aspect of it? Or are they just zeroing in on certain things to make it sound like the new nazi youth?

My friend got it from a facebook group called "Christians Against Obama's Reelection". Most of what they post is... well I don't want to offend anyone, so I'll just say I disagree with most of it and a lot (like this story) sounds like raving conspiracy theories.

Yes, they are completely wrong about the military aspect of it, there is no military aspect of it. The ammunition story came from an article earlier about the DHS buying up ammo, which is something they do because several law enforcement agencies fall under the DHS umbrella. And law enforcement needs ammo. That's just normal operations.

It's conspiracy theory nonsense.

horatio 11-18-2012 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by MigueldaRican (Post 327325)
Tell me this isn't true. A friend posted this on facebook.

http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.co...d-youth/23898/

Seems fishy. Why is there no followup on this? The article is a couple months old.

While the previous administration can rightly be blamed for not having restored habeas corpus and while there have indeed emerged, not just in the US but in the West in general, some authoritarian tendencies this is utter nonsense.

Akula2ssn 11-19-2012 03:10 PM

Uh, yeah it's kind of like the conspiracy theories that were popping up during Operation Patriot Hook that the administration was gearing up to put down protests following the recent elections. FEMA is one of several agencies under DHS. The only actual military organization under DHS that I'm aware of is the US Coast Guard. CBP, Immigrations and Customs Enforcement, Citizenship and Immigrations Services, TSA, and Secret Service all fall under DHS. Operation Patriot Hook is an annual nationwide exercise that the Air Force Reserve and Air National Guard do. They simulate responding to a nation wide emergency so that they can practice moving cargo that they wouldn't normally carry. US Coast Guard, FEMA, and other agencies piggy back onto the exercise so that they can practice rapid deployment of emergency teams and in doing so, those agencies provide the cargo that isn't normally transported by the Air Force. It also allows those agencies to learn how to coordinate with the Air Force in planning the transportation of the personnel and equipment.

I have to laugh at the black "fighting vehicle" in that article. It has DHS markings, but if there's anything on that vehicle about FEMA, they could have chosen a better sized photo to show it. I think here, the Seattle police department has such vehicles for some of their specialized units like SWAT. The MRAP that they show in the picture above has no markings that identify it as DHS let alone FEMA. It looks like a your standard Army or Marine Corps MRAP painted for desert operations and honestly the DoD, particularly the Marine Corps, is getting rid of them such as selling them off. Those vehicles were designed and built specifically to protect against EIDs in Iraq and Afghanistan. They weren't designed for any other role, so the military is getting rid of them.

Next thing you know, they're going to be going on about vehicles with DHS license plates driving on and off military bases. Happens all the time. Coast Guard vehicles are owned by DHS and the Coast Guard does share some facilities with the DoD. Coast Guard personnel can also use DoD exchanges, commissaries, medical facilities, fitness facilities, etc and vice versa.

But I will say this. There are a lot of people today, that still thing the Coast Guard is part of the Department of Transportation. That hasn't been true for almost a decade. I actually kind of wonder if some of the ammo buy ups falls around the time of the creation of the Maritime Enforcement Specialist "A" School that was created several years ago by the Coast Guard. Just within that 8 week school, you do more shooting than anyone else in the entire Coast Guard will do in their entire career.

When you work for the government you quickly see that a lot of things happen not out of some organized nefarious plot, but out of industrial scale genuine stupidity.

MigueldaRican 11-23-2012 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akula2ssn (Post 327388)
Uh, yeah it's kind of like the conspiracy theories that were popping up during Operation Patriot Hook that the administration was gearing up to put down protests following the recent elections. FEMA is one of several agencies under DHS. The only actual military organization under DHS that I'm aware of is the US Coast Guard. CBP, Immigrations and Customs Enforcement, Citizenship and Immigrations Services, TSA, and Secret Service all fall under DHS. Operation Patriot Hook is an annual nationwide exercise that the Air Force Reserve and Air National Guard do. They simulate responding to a nation wide emergency so that they can practice moving cargo that they wouldn't normally carry. US Coast Guard, FEMA, and other agencies piggy back onto the exercise so that they can practice rapid deployment of emergency teams and in doing so, those agencies provide the cargo that isn't normally transported by the Air Force. It also allows those agencies to learn how to coordinate with the Air Force in planning the transportation of the personnel and equipment.

I have to laugh at the black "fighting vehicle" in that article. It has DHS markings, but if there's anything on that vehicle about FEMA, they could have chosen a better sized photo to show it. I think here, the Seattle police department has such vehicles for some of their specialized units like SWAT. The MRAP that they show in the picture above has no markings that identify it as DHS let alone FEMA. It looks like a your standard Army or Marine Corps MRAP painted for desert operations and honestly the DoD, particularly the Marine Corps, is getting rid of them such as selling them off. Those vehicles were designed and built specifically to protect against EIDs in Iraq and Afghanistan. They weren't designed for any other role, so the military is getting rid of them.

Next thing you know, they're going to be going on about vehicles with DHS license plates driving on and off military bases. Happens all the time. Coast Guard vehicles are owned by DHS and the Coast Guard does share some facilities with the DoD. Coast Guard personnel can also use DoD exchanges, commissaries, medical facilities, fitness facilities, etc and vice versa.

But I will say this. There are a lot of people today, that still thing the Coast Guard is part of the Department of Transportation. That hasn't been true for almost a decade. I actually kind of wonder if some of the ammo buy ups falls around the time of the creation of the Maritime Enforcement Specialist "A" School that was created several years ago by the Coast Guard. Just within that 8 week school, you do more shooting than anyone else in the entire Coast Guard will do in their entire career.

When you work for the government you quickly see that a lot of things happen not out of some organized nefarious plot, but out of industrial scale genuine stupidity.

I was wondering about those pictures as well. Hell, I'm not even looking as closely as you were, and I suspected something amiss. Just looked like random picturing to me. Like well I'm writing about combat crap so I'm going to start posting pics of armored vehicles and guys with guns to make the article seem more real.

FanWriter45 12-06-2012 01:04 PM

Seriously? You have to even ask?

We just came out of 8 years of republican rule where everyone was having their phones tracked, America established torture as SOP for interrogation, hebeas corpus was suspended indefinitely, PATRIOT II was passed, allowing the government to kick in your door anytime it wants to, "Free Speech Zones" were established to keep anti-war protests from being in the news...

And you're worried about the Obama administration? The guy who's been slowly walking us back from that fascist cliff? The guy who allowed the assault weapons ban to expire?


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