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martok2112 06-14-2012 02:50 AM

A short summary of the ALIEN universe timeline...POSSIBLE SPOILERS
Hi, folks,

In my interest in establishing some dates for the ALIEN universe movies, I decided to do a little more in-depth research at anything that hinted to a date or year in which certain films may have taken place.

PROMETHEUS was the only ALIEN movie that established a solid date: starting in 2189, then the arrival at LV-423 on Dec. 21st, 2093, and ending just after the New Year in 2094.

I don't think this is spoilerific, unless you haven't seen the other ALIEN movies, so I think it's safe to discuss here...but, if you have NOT seen the ALIEN quadrilogy (quindrilogy now, with PROMETHEUS?) , and don't want it You have been warned.

Ok....the crux of the PROMETHEUS story (after its "way back in history" beginning) starts in 2089, and finishes? just after the New Year of 2094. It is being put about that this story takes place approximately 30 years before ALIEN. (I'm actually watching ALIEN right now, to confirm a certain something that's always had me curious....and I feel I'm gonna get lost in it all because I am watching the blu-ray version with audio commentary and the Weyland Yutani Datastream running...the latter is similar to the text commentaries made by the Okuda's for the Star Trek DVDs.) Anyhoo....when Dallas is working with MU-TH-UR (MOTHER) for the first time in the story, and he asks: "What' s the story, Mother?"....we see "Interface 2037". I had always wondered if that was the year in which ALIEN took place...2037...but obviously, it's not. Now something else had popped up in the blu-ray menus....the number 2120. This actually would work more to the timeline, especially in keeping with PROMETHEUS taking place some 30+ years before ALIEN. I know there are some made up bios on the crew of the Nostromo in the extra features...but I cannot recall if they actually list any dates.

But, take this a step further...ALIENS is the only other movie out of the ALIEN universe that gives a date (at least, for a past occurrence), when Ripley says: "I just checked the Colony log. Direcive dated 6-12-79, signed Burke, Carter J." Now, if ALIENS (as it had been mentioned in the ALIENS ADVENTURE GAME) takes place in the 22nd century, then that would make it the year 2179... Ripley was in hypersleep for 57 years....2179 is indeed 59 years after the final events of ALIEN, assuming that 2120 is the correct year. The two extra years could've come from the short time of Ripley's return and reassimilation back to Earth, and the travel time taken when she goes with the Colonial Marines back to LV426. Or, it could actually put the year of the USCM's doomed mission around 2181...considering that I do believe the Sulaco inhabitants were in hypersleep for 18 months...if I remember the novelization correctly., Rebecca "Newt" Jordan was supposedly in the second grade on Acheron/LV-426 at the Hadley's Hope Colony. That would make her character probably about 8 years old. By the time of ALIEN 3, she was estimated to be 12 years old at the time of her death. So, that means about 4 years travel time when Ripley, Hicks, Bishop, and Newt were headed back to Earth in the Sulaco...and had their doomed escape afterward to land on Fiorina (Fury) 161 in ALIEN 3....which, if my years are solid, means that ALIEN 3 takes place in 2185.
ALIEN RESURRECTION takes place some 200 years after Ripley's demise in ALIEN 3. If we took it solidly at 200 years, that would make the year of the events in that movie at, the 24th century.

I'm not saying these are solid numbers....I am only basing them around the few solid or semi-solid numbers/dates given in a couple of the movies. Your actual temporal mileage may vary. :)

kevin 06-14-2012 10:38 AM

Seems to tie in reasonably closely.

samwiseb 06-14-2012 01:26 PM

Do you age in hypersleep? For the most part, I don't believe you do. Rebecca's citizenship award need not necessarily be current. How old was the actress when ALIENS was filmed? Because I think that would be a more solid basis for determination.

It's not uncommon for sequels to get these details wrong, however. I think the 'timeline' of Ripley's maternity leave (initially DENIED to her by the Company) on the DVD menu's makes it unlikely that her daughter was already 11 years old. And Terminator 3 ~ Terinator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles couldn't even agree with each other on when T2 took place or how old JC was at the time, leaving the 'alternate timeline' theory an unlikely explanation for the relationship between those two opposing sequels.

(It's also hard to imagine Newt surviving by herself for upwards of a year, considering that she had only 'borderline' malnutrition by that time)

kevin 06-14-2012 01:39 PM

Doesn't Ripley have a line in Aliens where she states she was meant to have been home for her child's eleventh birthday and that the daughter was 67 or something when she died?

Or is that just in the DC.

martok2112 06-14-2012 02:44 PM

Hi, Kevin and Sam,

Yeah, Ripley states she was supposed to be home in time for Amanda's (Ripley's daughter) 11th birthday in the Director's Cut. They completely cut that material out in the theatrical release.

Samwise, you bring up a good question. It would seem that one does age somewhat in hypersleep, because (granted it was a different actress portraying a very dead Newt) Newt looked older.

Also, with borderline malnutrition, remember Newt was surviving pretty much on foodpacks, and whatever she could scrounge up when she did move about the colony. She managed to deduce when the aliens moved, and when was the best time for herself to move, and when to lay low. So she certainly didn't feast, but she wasn't exactly starving. She just needed better foods. (Which brings to mind a question....did Newt get to have a meal before going into hypersleep at the end of ALIENS?) :)

I did not get to look at the fictional Nostromo crew bios like I'd wanted to last night, it was late when I was making the initial post...and I needed to hypersleep myself. LOL!

samwiseb 06-14-2012 04:42 PM

Oh, it's definitely canon that Ripley's daughter was turning 11 around the time of the first movie. My impression is that the DVD bios predate that (I think they're based on notes Scott had written up for the actors upon filming A L I E N) and I think the retroactive canon of the sequels overwrites them.

Four years though seems like a long time for Newt to age in hypsersleep. It wouldn't take that long for the alien to impregnate Ripley and start the fire. And once Ripley was impregnated, her stasis was interrupted.

It took Ripley 57 years of hypersleep for Sigourney Weaver to age 7 years, let's look at it that way.

martok2112 06-14-2012 09:15 PM

Good points, Sam. :)

Overall, I was just wanting to see if the numbers I came up with made any sense to anyone else. :)

samwiseb 06-14-2012 09:46 PM

I want to know who did Ripley leave to watch over her cat.

martok2112 06-15-2012 03:26 AM

Probably a neighbor. :)

NCC-73515 06-16-2012 12:25 PM

AvP2 (the game!) plays in 2230-31 ;)

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