The Official Star Trek Movie Forum

The Official Star Trek Movie Forum (http://www.startrekmovie.com/forums/index.php)
-   Off Topic Discussions (http://www.startrekmovie.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=4)
-   -   Stephen Hawking: Colonize space, or else (http://www.startrekmovie.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11396)

omegaman 11-19-2011 09:17 PM

Stephen Hawking: Colonize space, or else
 
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-57...=2547-1_3-0-20


Yes Stephen, I believe you're absolutely bloody right. We're an accident waiting to happen and it could all be over in a minute and no one will ever know we were here unless they happen to find a remnant from our space exploration.

martok2112 11-19-2011 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by omegaman (Post 319809)
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-57...=2547-1_3-0-20


Yes Stephen, I believe you're absolutely bloody right. We're an accident waiting to happen and it could all be over in a minute and no one will ever know we were here unless they happen to find a remnant from our space exploration.

We'd be a foot note in an apocryphy. Ha ha ha. :)

horatio 11-20-2011 07:25 AM

On the one hand his point is correct, we'd have better chances of survival with two planets. But not because some aliens might arrive and zip us with their ray-guns but because we screw up the one we are living on.
On the other hand space travel is extremely costly and I cannot imagine the costs of setting up terraforming projects on Mars or travelling to a potential M class planet.
And even if we could do it I wouldn't wanna become us space gypsies who leave a place after they fu*ked it up. Locusts in space, reminds me too much of Independence Day.

omegaman 11-20-2011 09:55 AM

Right now we need a self sustained moon colony and that's all. One stepping stone at a time. If the Earth gets stuffed by whatever, then we have a chance to repopulate it, hopefully at some point in the future, provided its capable of supporting life.

horatio 11-20-2011 02:35 PM

Don't take it personally but this argument is stupid and evil beyond belief.
Without touching the economic idiocy, i.e. the incredibly large costs as well as the lack of technologies we need for such a project, setting up a colony of the moon for a few people would be pointless. Humankind is not biologically endangered, civilization is in danger. A few freaks on the moon cannot be our grail keepers.
Why evil? Because it suggests that we can really spread and that Earth-specific risks can be diversified. Sorry but until they build Yonada-like starships for billions of people we only have this planet.

omegaman 11-20-2011 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by horatio (Post 319822)
Don't take it personally but this argument is stupid and evil beyond belief.
Without touching the economic idiocy, i.e. the incredibly large costs as well as the lack of technologies we need for such a project, setting up a colony of the moon for a few people would be pointless. Humankind is not biologically endangered, civilization is in danger. A few freaks on the moon cannot be our grail keepers.
Why evil? Because it suggests that we can really spread and that Earth-specific risks can be diversified. Sorry but until they build Yonada-like starships for billions of people we only have this planet.

Starships capable of carrying humankind to the stars are centuries away and the likely hood of disease, war or a catastrophic event wiping out mankind in the next two or three hundred years is increasing day by day, we are after all just an 8 ball waiting for a corner pocket. Forget logistics - humankind can achieve marvellous things!

kevin 11-22-2011 10:53 AM

Personally, I tend to fall on the side of clipping humanity's wings until it can get itself sorted out on THIS planet a bit better than it presently is before we start the exportation of our crap to new worlds and new civilisations.

But interstellar technology is probably slower in being realised anyway. So I don't think we have to worry about going far into the stars in the next long while.

horatio 11-22-2011 10:14 PM

Next time they send a space probe out they better spare the stupid plaque and take one of these hamburgers who never rot aboard. The Martians also want our smartphones and stealth drones, they just don't know it yet.

jerhanner 11-24-2011 07:25 PM

Sometimes I wonder if we aren't part Martian. I mean, who's to say?

Saquist 11-25-2011 08:49 AM

Sometimes I wonder if Hawking says things like this just for attention.


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 02:04 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 2009 by Paramount Pictures. STAR TREK and all related
marks and logos are trademarks of CBS Studios Inc. All Rights Reserved.