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Zardoz 03-18-2008 05:45 AM

How Do You Feel About the "Heavy" Discussions?

We've had some heated debates over various topics, what is YOUR feelings on it?




Chris Fawkes 03-18-2008 05:56 AM

You can always have a beer with someone you respect but totally disagree with. On a forum it is easier to get inflamed over a difference of opinion.
I guess a computer screen is like the same protection we feel when in the safe confines of a car.
That is if i were walking down the street and another person and myself bumped into each other as we passed we would both offer a polite apology and move on. If we were in a car we would be yelling abuse at each other.
That is because when we are with people we project what we want others to think we are, dignified and well mannered people.
In the car, well that is who we really are. Insecure individuals who want to blame others for everything and vindicate ourselves.
behind a computer, that sits somewhere in the middle i guess.

Zardoz 03-18-2008 06:04 AM


Some well said words. Your analogies are good.

But how did it make you feel Chris?

Livingston 03-18-2008 06:39 AM

I've only been involved in one or two deep discussions on here. This is the first forum I've ever joined, it's somewhat of a new experience. I can't say I like the 'deep' discussions all that much, like Chris said, people are too easily inflamed. When I first joined I got into some deeper conversations concerning technology and if we'll be anywhere near Trek in 300 years and that sort of thing, but it's not the sort of thing that sets people off as easily as some of the other conversations on here.

However I'd say the most heated of these debates have been an eye opener, informative, certainly, destructive, I wouldn't go that far but I was surprised by certain view points and their explanations for those viewpoints, but I guess that's what these forums are about, throwing what we think out there and discussing and as long as it is civil, it certainly is constructive, you just gotta keep it civil.

Lately, I've been posting more in off topic and tv shows, I typically like to just sit back and chat, but occasionally I do throw my two cents in to these 'deeper' debates.

Excellent thread starter, Zardoz!

What are your feeling on it?

Zardoz 03-18-2008 06:45 AM


Some good honest opinon there, agree with alot of the second paragrah alot!

I'm not sure I'd want a debate of that magnatude all the time, but it was interesting.

I was genuinely suprised by some of the open hatered on one of those topics (I know you can figure which one.) Some of it made me ashamed to be human. Some of it actually made me see light at the end of the tunnel of prejudice.

But, that aside, like you said, the veiws and the attempts to justify veiwpoints. maybe, in it's way, it is a micro veiw of America and beyond.

But diveristy is a strength, on that note, we are a strong bunch of people.

Livingston 03-18-2008 06:51 AM

No kidding, Zardoz. When I was reading through the 'hate' I was surprised those who posted it would be star trek fans. I don't see how you can have such contempt for humanity and get trek. When I was reading it, that's what I thought.

Zardoz 03-18-2008 06:59 AM

I agree with your words Livingston. But fear, and lack of understanding, breds prejudice and hatred.

Hatred is like a virus, spreads rapidly, with devistaing results.

As I keep saying "Hatred is easy. Understanding is hard, very hard."

We all have our personal opinons, and I am not saying love what a person does. But accpet them for who they are.

Livingston 03-18-2008 07:02 AM

Well put, very well put!

Incidently, I was wondering, what is that in your avatar, it is very cool looking whatever it is.:thumbup:

Zardoz 03-18-2008 07:18 AM

Ty Sir, TYVM!

Well it is Zardoz (literally) the floating Godhead!

Her's the link to read about the movie Zardoz.

Chris Fawkes 03-18-2008 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by Zardoz (Post 27948)

Some well said words. Your analogies are good.

But how did it make you feel Chris?

If you are referring to the thread that dare not speak it's name i did not feel anything. I just offered a subjective opinion in that case and it received a valid response that provided me with some food for thought.
I have said things though at times that are a little snarky and it usually has to do with how i am feeling with things that are completely external to the forum.
For example i think anger is what we feel when we are not in control of a situation. It's an inarticulate way of trying to regain control. So if something is bothering me and i jump on the forum pushing my opinion over another gives me a sense of regaining control, even though it doesn't really.
I don't usually get angry either yet i recognise that in myself and have deleted a few post that did not need to be said.

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